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Post by DeltaMustang65 on Oct 13, 2007 2:28:55 GMT -5
What DURZ really needs is to be hit upside the head with half a foot...
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Post by Rotary on Oct 13, 2007 9:08:07 GMT -5
Whaa?
No, that's what he LIKES, dummy!
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Post by DeltaMustang65 on Oct 13, 2007 13:29:56 GMT -5
I seem to be getting quite forgetful in my old age.
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Post by IGNIGNOC on Oct 14, 2007 14:29:43 GMT -5
Biggest. Phailure. EVAR.
Al Gore wins the Nobel Peace Prize® for his "contributions" to global warming awareness.
What a worthless turd...
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Post by DeltaMustang65 on Oct 14, 2007 20:11:43 GMT -5
Hmmm...he phailed so hard, he won?
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Post by nightmare75 on Oct 14, 2007 21:28:29 GMT -5
That hypocritical pompous ass... He's the only person dumb enough to chastise people for using too much energy from the leather seats in his Gulfstream jet.
On a related note, did you know that a private jet is the most INefficient method of travel and the most wasteful? Apparently, no one told big Al...
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Post by IGNIGNOC on Oct 15, 2007 7:45:33 GMT -5
The dude has two or three houses totaling over 50,000 square feet. FIFTY EFFING THOUSAND SQUARE FEET! That electric bill alone costs him and Tipper about the same amount of money as my entire (151 room suite-only) Marriott hotel racks up in water, gas and electric!!
BTW, we hear all this publicity about Algore, and how his movie (truth my ass) is just SOOOOo awesome, but has anyone ever met ANYONE else that actually agrees with him? Everyone I know that has seen and/or heard of it calls it an errant crock of dungbutter. Yay propaganda!
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Post by ciscokid on Oct 15, 2007 12:40:47 GMT -5
I don't agree with everything he's got to say, but I do believe warming is happening, although not completely just from enviornmental pollution. I think some part of it is from pollution, some partly due to a natural cycle, also partly due to overpopulation and overdevelopment of land.
As for the private jet and his house, the use of the jet is pretty hypocritical, but he buys carbon offsets based on his use of that jet, and his homes have massive solar arrays, so he probably doesn't use much energy provided by the electric company supplying his homes, at least not nearly as much as you assume he does.
For an example of the solar savings, my mom has a system she had installed last year for $25,000. She only gets a bill once a year, but gets monthly statements detailing how much energy she used vs. how much energy she supplied to the power grid. During the sunniest months from late May to early September, she uses less than $10/month. She receives credits for the power supplied to the grid during those months to make up for the extra usage during the winter months keeping her swimming pool from freezing. If she didn't have the pool, she probably wouldn't have a power bill at all and instead be payed by the electric company for supplying the grid.
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Post by trombgirl on Oct 15, 2007 14:36:17 GMT -5
Ha anyone seen the show "Living with Ed"? If you haven't and your interested in all the silly ways you can live "green" then you should check it out. This guy (an actor you may recognize) is a green freak and is constantly upgrading his house or going to friends houses (sometimes other actors) and making them more green. A funny part of the show is that Ed lives down the street from Bill Nye the Science Guy and the two of them are in a "keeping up with the Joneses" sort of race. When one adds solar panels or a windmill or a water catch or anything the other goes over , checks it out, and gets really jealous. It's funny.
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Post by nightmare75 on Oct 15, 2007 15:25:43 GMT -5
That movie of his has so many holes. I once saw a list of absolute and utter fabrications in it. Not just questionable reasoning and stretched facts, but flat-out made-up lies. The list was fairly long, too. I just wish I could remember where it was.
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Post by vitg on Oct 16, 2007 3:28:02 GMT -5
I don't agree with everything he's got to say, but I do believe warming is happening, although not completely just from enviornmental pollution. I think some part of it is from pollution, some partly due to a natural cycle, also partly due to overpopulation and overdevelopment of land. For an example of the solar savings, my mom has a system she had installed last year for $25,000. She only gets a bill once a year, but gets monthly statements detailing how much energy she used vs. how much energy she supplied to the power grid. During the sunniest months from late May to early September, she uses less than $10/month. She receives credits for the power supplied to the grid during those months to make up for the extra usage during the winter months keeping her swimming pool from freezing. If she didn't have the pool, she probably wouldn't have a power bill at all and instead be payed by the electric company for supplying the grid. Way to go Ciscracks Mom. It cant hurt eh ? Anything we do must be a positive, whether you believe the "Climate Change Poster Boys" or not. As for my experiences on the other side of the World I have seen the effects of climate change. No bull. I do not care what the cause is, whether natural cycles or man made, it is real. I have seen it happening. Example 1 - holes in the Ozone layer. 30 years ago I could run around outside all Summer without too much trouble unless I was really stoopid. This Summer coming ( about 2 months away ) if I stay outdoors, without protection, I will begin to Burn in about ten minutes, you can feel it happening by the prickling sensation on your skin. Nasty. If we make an effort we may just survive. If we do nothing we are F*****. No doubt about it.
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Post by IGNIGNOC on Oct 16, 2007 4:06:36 GMT -5
It has been proven that the globe has a cyclical pattern of warming and cooling. About thirty years ago, scientists from NASA were predicting a global freeze (which didn't come) and now, we're awaiting the big heat wave that's gonna kill us all. Don't forget that this planet is over (at LEAST) seven thousand years old. It's covered by 75% water (btw, fun fact for the kids: water vapor is responsible for about 70-80% of the 'greenhouse effect'), and humanity barely covers a minor FRACTION of the LANDMASS of this globe. We're far from being able to destroy it by accident.
Y'know, I read somewhere that these cycles were something like 70 years long on average, so it wouldn't surprise me if we in our lifetimes were to see another "big freeze" scare as widely publicized as the global warming scare.
To be perfectly honest, yes, I'm sure we've aggravated the cycles, and probably made them slightly more severe. However, just remember that global warming conventions this winter were cancelled because of it being too cold outside, and in Oklahoma we received more rainfall between January and April than we did for the entire YEAR of 2006, or 2005, for that matter. This has actually been one of the mildest summers I've seen here (high humidity notwithstanding), and one of the mildest I've EVER experienced anywhere.
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Post by ciscokid on Oct 16, 2007 11:46:38 GMT -5
"Don't forget that this planet is over (at LEAST) seven thousand years old."
Only 7000? Humans have been around for over 100,000, where did they live before Earth formed?
Global warming would actually increase rainfall since more water would turn into water vapor and increase humidity. The rise in temperature would shorten winter and cause snowpack to melt off faster than before causing drought situations toward the end of summer. There still could be an increase in actual snowfall, and cold snaps won't go away with an atmosphere that's a couple degrees warmer.
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Post by Lupin_IV on Oct 16, 2007 13:54:27 GMT -5
I trust woolly bear caterpillars and groundhogs to predict the weather as much as I do scientists. That being said, I saw a big, all-black woolly bear last night, meaning there's a 70% chance this winter will be farking cold beginning to end.
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Post by DeltaMustang65 on Oct 17, 2007 3:16:44 GMT -5
^ROFL?
True, science is definitely a work in progress, but it is still in our best interests to conserve.
Also, we may not occupy much of the total landmass, but in several areas of the world, huge amounts of people are jam-packed together. This is no good, as it increases the spread of disease, among other reasons.
One thing I worry about is how quickly we're going through gasoline. I like to drive, even if my car (carS, later on) capable of more spirited runs don't see much action. I'd still like to know I can take them for a spin once in awhile. Too bad many people insist on guzzling as much gas as possible during boring-ass commutes. That, or sputtering down by the mall in their beat up, DUB'd out POS Buick listening to bad "music" while engaged in a futile search for underage v@gina.
Here's an idea, stop spending thousands (or hundreds, if you live in Stockton) of dollars that you didn't earn on a sound system that you can't listen to without using gas. Stay in your house, and turn your shit D.O.W.N. because nobody cares what you listen to in the first place.
/tangent
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