wanderingmuse22
Posted 7/18/2006 7:52:22 PM
message detail "Cars the likes of the '69 SS Camaro would be flat crushed by cars like the Superbird, given that there is a 100+ hp gap. "
I don't know, hp isn't the only thing that makes a car fast, especially at the 'Ring. I for one would like to see that race, and if the Camaro was the Z28, I'd put my money on it (with both having FC transmissions) instead of the Superbird.
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OmicronPersei8
Posted 7/19/2006 5:48:19 PM
message detail "I don't know, hp isn't the only thing that makes a car
fast, especially at the 'Ring. I for one would like to see that race, and
if the Camaro was the Z28, I'd put my money on it (with both having FC
transmissions) instead of the Superbird."
Well it just so happens I've chosen the Z/28 as one of my AMCC cars. So if
the Superbird finds a driver in this competition, perhaps we'll get the
answer...
As Mr. T would say, "I got no time for jibba-jabber". Since we don't have
official status on the FC issue, I will capitulate and run it both ways:
Pure Stock (w/oil change only):
Buyable Entry: ’69 Camaro Z/28 (309 hp)
T1= 51.196
T2= 1:31.286
Final= 8:21.847
Prize Entry: ’65 Shelby Mustang GT350R (326 hp)
T1= 49.991
T2= 1:29.881
Final= 8:05.619
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Stock w/Fully Customized Transmission added:
Buyable Entry: ’69 Camaro Z/28 (309 hp)
T1= 50.901
T2= 1:30.974
Final= 8:11.993
Prize Entry: ’65 Shelby Mustang GT350R (326 hp)
T1= 49.695
T2= 1:28.700
Final= 7:57.226
Interestingly, the Shelby upgrades to a 6 speed with the FC tranny; the Z/28 just gets a 5 speed.
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Soulidarity, that Motul Civic seems like a cool choice for a RR. The
current tournament race appears to be popular in the forum. As I haven’t run the Civic one make series, I don’t own one, so I’ll try & remedy that here in the next couple days…
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ciscrack
Posted 7/19/2006 8:22:04 PM
message detail The Superbird was the first WR I chose way back in time. I believe all the better times were somewhere in the 8'10-8'15 range on S2's. Throttle control is key to getting decent lap times with that thing. Wheel spin in 1st, 2nd and 3rd gears. Fun to drive tho.
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viperinthegrass
Posted 7/19/2006 11:07:56 PM
message detail Ah Yes, the Superbird, I remember it well. Good times, good times.Sigh.
I have not had a chance to run my AMMC completely stock yet, but in the meantime here is where I am at :
Stock w/Fully Customized Transmission + Oil:
Buyable Entry: ’67 Mercury Cougar XR - 7 with S2's
T2= 1:30.529
T8 to T10=1:12.614
Final= 8:07. 009
Prize Entry: ’71 Plymouth 'Cuda 440 Sixpack with N2's
T2= 1:37.910
T8 to T10=1:18.858
Final= 8:47.039
Forgot to note hp, will add that next post.
More Later.
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viperinthegrass
Posted 7/20/2006 12:23:22 AM
message detail A few thoughts on the Cars.
I had not previously driven either Car (the main reason I selected them) so it was interesting to compare them side by side as it were. I ran both on S2's and N2's as well to get a fair idea of performance.
The Cougar wins hands down. It is very exhilarating to run hard on the N2's. There is nothing quite like hammering sideways through Plantzgarten at about 83 mph for clearing your sinuses.
The 'Cuda, although it is heavier, has a better P/W ratio but I found it to be "stodgy" on either set of Rubber.It certainly feels planted on the road and is very stable but just does not "have" it. Looks good though. Photo's uploaded.