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Post by vitg on Dec 13, 2007 16:40:42 GMT -5
Carbon fibre is much, much lighter than Fiberglass.
As you know it is much stronger as well.
I do not know exactly the relative weights per given volume, but i will do a search and see what i can find.
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Post by Nemesis on Dec 13, 2007 17:18:40 GMT -5
Not only Carbon fibre is much lighter than fiberglass, like vitg said, it is also a lot more resistant.
My dad had a Citroen BX. For those that don't know, it had a fiberglass hood ( I don't know if there was anything else in fiberglass, besides the hood). When my dad had an accident, the hood didn't bend, like an ordinary metal hood. The hood BROKE in half, literally.
My 2 cents. Correct me if I'm wrong, as I don't know much about this type of stuff. I just recalled from experience
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Post by Lupin_IV on Dec 13, 2007 23:53:52 GMT -5
Fiberglass tears in comparison to carbon fiber.
It takes a little more force to break carbon fiber, and it makes a clean break once it does, whereas fiberglass tends to crack away from a break.
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Post by Spartan on May 29, 2008 17:49:22 GMT -5
I have a question to help me determine if I should go to a school for obsessive people.
I'm only 13 years old and I'm already thinking of my first car and such, and I'm trying to start saving because I want something nice.
were any of you like this?
I just have such a passion with cars that I don't know what I'll do when I grow up... I love talking about them so much that I have to control myself so I don't make run on sentences.
But yeah, I don't get why people like mustangs so much, I think it's because 1) its a good amount of power for the price, 2) it's an icon of America basically, and 3) they are just appealing to people.
My tech teacher in school has a Mustang, and we had a long talk about cars. I saw it, and it's not just any regular mustang. He really takes good care of it. I think it is a '99 or '98. Not sure.
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Post by ciscokid on May 29, 2008 18:57:13 GMT -5
You seem pretty cool for being 13.
If you want a nice car and have the ability to start saving for one now, do it. I don't know when my brother started saving for it, but he bought a '61 Mini when he was barely 15, which was...............
19 yrs. ago.
Your 3 points about the Mustang are probably mostly true. Any idea what car you want?
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Post by Spartan on May 29, 2008 19:56:10 GMT -5
You seem pretty cool for being 13. If you want a nice car and have the ability to start saving for one now, do it. I don't know when my brother started saving for it, but he bought a '61 Mini when he was barely 15, which was............... 19 yrs. ago. Your 3 points about the Mustang are probably mostly true. Any idea what car you want? I was thinking of trying to find a used Impreza because I really love those cars. I wa going to look at vehix to see what the prices were but then my computer locked up so I didn't get too far. The reason I had those points about the Mustang is because a LOT of the kids in my area have them (the kids in high school). I wanted one up until I saw about the hundredth one in my area. I want something different that sticks out.. Also, my parents say I have to pay for 100% of a car if I want to get one, so I have to start early. Alright, I just looked at vehix and the first 5 searches that came up were: '06 Impreza sedan, $17,000, 17k miles '05 sedan, $15,000 19k miles Skip a few... '04 WRX Wagon $17,000 with 28k milesits a 4 banger, and a manual... that doesn't bother me. I'd prefer a manual. Actually my dad used to have an Acura with an inline 5, now that was rare. I would like more of the old styling of the Imprezas, I like that better. And I don't really know how much I will be able to save money-wise so I'll just look at my option and set a goal. Thanks for the comment about being "cool for a 13". I appreciated it. UPSHIFT'd |
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Post by DeltaMustang65 on May 29, 2008 21:10:51 GMT -5
True, Mustangs are everywhere. If they're new, they're mostly V6s, and if they're old, the owners don't usually take very good care of them. If you WERE to get a Mustang, I'd of course recommend a classic and restore it. It's pretty fun if you've got the time, money, and patience to learn how to work on them yourself.
The new ones are ok, but they're too friggin' huge for my taste.
A classic Mini would be awesome, btw. I kinda want to get one someday and fix it up. Only problem is that I might have to chop the top in order to fit in there.
Are you looking for a wagon, or is that just among the first you've found? They make WRX coupes, right? I didn't see any on your list.
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Post by Lupin_IV on May 29, 2008 21:21:21 GMT -5
Are you looking for a wagon, or is that just among the first you've found? They make WRX coupes, right? I didn't see any on your list. I think the coupe was discontinued a year or two before they started selling the WRX in the US. The Impreza 2.5 RS however was a naturally aspirated coupe sold in North America only that featured similar styling to the WRX.  |
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Post by vitg on May 29, 2008 23:09:04 GMT -5
I have a question to help me determine if I should go to a school for obsessive people. I'm only 13 years old and I'm already thinking of my first car and such, and I'm trying to start saving because I want something nice. were any of you like this? This sounds perfectly reasonable and not obsessive at all. Obsessive is playing all GT versions until the Missus says - "Make up your mind , it is either me or that stupid game". I will miss her. She was a good cook. |
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Post by DeltaMustang65 on May 29, 2008 23:39:46 GMT -5
Good thing I'm the cook in this house.
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Post by ½ A Gram on May 30, 2008 0:11:47 GMT -5
gtp: You are an awesome guy for 13.
And, i really, really don't think you should shell out the money specified on an Impreza. not only are they gas guzzlers (in nearly all their forms) as far as I know, they naturally burn oil, and are pretty much cop/theif magnets.
If you live in a city where good, independent, knowledgeable mechanic shops are available to you, along with a good, reliable parts store, there are a myriad of AWESOME cars you can get.
You should be able to EASILY find an E30 M3 (pwnage in a can) for under 12. Put 5 grand in it, and it'll be nothing short of epic.
You can easily find 928's for under 10 grand (8 cyl, fast as hell, and the interior is nothing short of awesome) Or a 944 for under 7 or 8 grand (more economical, lots of potential. The 944 Turbo/S/S2's were nothing to scoff at.)
If you wait and look, by the time you have that money (3 years, by then you'll be 16, is what i'll assume) you could find a 911 or two for the price of that 4 banger Impreza. way better on gas, boxer engine (impreza's use a 6 cyl for their boxer, if i recall) and it'll probably turn more heads, along with being most likely, built alot better.
I know what it's like to want a kickass car from a young age. when i was 13, i was job searching, because i wanted a 911. Was it practical? hell no. Did it work? Hell no. way too young. But, it was a source of ambition. Find a job where you can get decent cash, and work as much as you can. I know gaming, and soon, partying will be/is fun, but there will be time for that after you get your ride, whatever it is. believe me, i waited, when i couldn't find anything, till I was 15. and I already regret it. Now i need a car, and a university savings account, in a measly 3-4 years. that won't be easy, and I'mma have to work my ass off for it.
However, getting off my BS... seriously, if you plan on looking into a 17 grand car (seriously now) in a few years time, REALLY search your options. there are fantastic deals out there for 17 grand. Craigslist, Kijiji, these are your friends. Autotrader too, if you can get through the waves of overpriced bullshit.
like i said, really search. 17 (even say 15) is a big assed investment for a first car (for comparison, that's 2 full years of university tuition, for me).
In 3 years, assuming, perhaps...10 dollars an hour, 5 grand a year for you isn't out of the question. that's 5 grand a year. working 5 hours a day on weekends, you're making 400 a month, which is 4800 a year. round it down to 4 grand (since you aren't buying ALOT of stuff at your age, most likely) and that's 12 grand in 3 years,assuming no raise, and no better job by 16.
Anyway, to sum it up, try really hard to find a job. even just 10 hours a week, if something. Try really hard to save, if you can. it's worth it, to roll around in an awesome first car. save as much as you can, and search search search, for anything that comes to your mind.
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Post by vitg on May 30, 2008 2:36:46 GMT -5
I hate to say it but, for a first Car, I recommend buying the best late 1990's onwards Toyota you can afford.
Cheap to run.
Availability of parts.
Easy to drive.
Pretty safe.
Ultra reliable.
Easy to fix on those rare occasions they break down.
Chick magnets lol.
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Post by Spartan on May 30, 2008 14:19:39 GMT -5
Yeah, after posting I realized that 17 was a bit much for a first car, so I don't think I'll go with that, not to mention the fact that gas will most likely be over $4.50 a gallon by the time I'm behind the wheel. Insurance will be hell as well. Hey, that rhymed. the M3 (I'm assuming is an older M3, I don't really know how all of the E's work except for the current E46) and Porsche that were mentioned, they sound like good deals... except for the fact that I'm not too sure how they manage gasoline and I'm pretty sure that insurance on those things will be extremely high, not to mention that I'll be a first time driver. And form what I hear, Porsches, being rear engined, are much different to drive than most people think. Who knows, maybe I'll end up behind the wheel of some econocar because of the extreme gas prices. But who would want that? I'm probably going to have a tough time managing my money between car and college and such. But automobiles will be my first priority, when it comes to spending money (after education, of course!). So I looked at the official BMW USA site and the only used vehicles they had under 25 were all Z4's. That type of car doesn't appeal to me, in practicality. I found a '97 3 series Link www.vehix.com/inventory/VehicleDetails.aspx?zip=18925&radius=-1&condition=Used&smodel=M%20Models&make=BMW&SearchPageSize=25&SearchPagePosition=12&inventoryid=77000000F03E1E&N=127%2B4294966042%2B4294964469%2B124&pagesize=25This looks pretty nice, I particularly like the look of the slightly oder style 3s. I see a lot of convertibles, but I don't like them... too much road noise. Now here's one I like: Link www.vehix.com/inventory/VehicleDetails.aspx?zip=18925&radius=-1&condition=Used&smodel=M%20Models&make=BMW&SearchPageSize=25&SearchPagePosition=16&inventoryid=77000000FC30E5&N=127%2B4294966042%2B4294964469%2B124&pagesize=25The interior looks like it has some scratches, but those can be fixed. The other problem I will encounter is that my mom probably thinks iit will be too dangerous to drive in such a car. Also, this has almost 100k miles on it. Of course, in a couple years these exact cars probably won't be for sale but I'm just looking to get an idea. True, Mustangs are everywhere. If they're new, they're mostly V6s, and if they're old, the owners don't usually take very good care of them. If you WERE to get a Mustang, I'd of course recommend a classic and restore it. It's pretty fun if you've got the time, money, and patience to learn how to work on them yourself. Actually, my dad has a Trans Am that we were thinking of restoring, but we looked into it and it seems very expensive. The car has been sitting in one spot for probably 15 years now so almost everything would have to be replaced. Quick update: I'm looking at vehix for porsche... I see a lot of the 944's which I like but they all seem to be harshly abused and have a ton of miles. Long post.  I hate to say it but, for a first Car, I recommend buying the best late 1990's onwards Toyota you can afford. I know it. I'm probably going to end up with some car like that when the time comes, but it's fun to dream while you still have hope, right? If I really want these cars (which I do) then I'll have to really work my ass off ( which I will) to get the money. My mom says I should get a job this summer, so now is the perfect time. |
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Post by ciscokid on May 30, 2008 15:03:03 GMT -5
"I'm probably going to have a tough time managing my money between car and college and such. But automobiles will be my first priority, when it comes to spending money (after education, of course!). "
Spend the money on education and you might be able to buy the better car later with less financial stress.
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Post by Pegasus on May 30, 2008 15:11:37 GMT -5
4.50? Try 7.50. Seriously, if gas prices keep going the way they are, that doesn't seem too unrealistic. I've been hearing rumors of 5.00 a gallon gas by the end of the summer. THIS summer. Things aren't going to get any better any time soon and as long as everyone just allows themselves to get assraped at the pumps, these douchebags running the oil biz are just going to sit back, watch the money pour in easy peezy lemon squeezy and laugh.
*reads post*
Oops, better stop before I start ranting!
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