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Post by Spartan on May 30, 2008 15:56:22 GMT -5
Spend the money on education and you might be able to buy the better car later with less financial stress. But when I can drive, I'll pretty much need a car to get places, as my parents will most likely not let me take theirs. So it's not like I'm just saying, "hey, I wanna spend $7k because I feel like it." I'm saying, "hey, I need to spend $7k because I need a car." Of course, I could just buy something not as exciting, but then my hopes and dreams would be brutally crushed. So, for now, I want a nice first vehicle. Personally, I think that the 'whole petroleum supply running low' thing MIGHT be artificial ( as in, made up by the oil companies to manufacture demand)... And global warming actually just might be a natural earth cycle... I mean, what caused the Ice Age? Maybe we are just entering the Heat Age. Now this doesn't solve anything, we still need to cut down on pollution and mowing down rainforests. I'll stop there. I'm not about to go on a long, rambling rant about how we misuse and abuse our planet. I wanna talk about automobiles instead. |
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Post by ciscokid on May 30, 2008 16:29:24 GMT -5
I'm just saying you might be better off getting the more affordable, fuel efficient and reliable car when you start driving, like you say for $7k, then continue to save for college/better car after you get more driving experience. Depending on what career you're interested in, get the better education to hopefully land better paying job which can lead to better/faster toys later. You can get a pretty good, quick car for $7k.
I drove a Miata a few weeks ago during race school, those things a quick, fun, and easy to handle. Maybe to small for your current/near term needs, driving friends around or whatever.
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Post by Spartan on May 30, 2008 16:36:02 GMT -5
I'm just saying you might be better off getting the more affordable, fuel efficient and reliable car when you start driving, like you say for $7k, then continue to save for college/better car after you get more driving experience. Depending on what career you're interested in, get the better education to hopefully land better paying job which can lead to better/faster toys later. You can get a pretty good, quick car for $7k. I drove a Miata a few weeks ago during race school, those things a quick, fun, and easy to handle. Maybe to small for your current/near term needs, driving friends around or whatever. I know what you are saying, and it's probably how things are going to turn out. I'm pretty sure that I'll end up with exactly what you described: a more affordable, fuel efficient and reliable car. But it's still fun to hope, and who knows, maybe something awesome will happen and I'll be able to get the car of my dreams. Like I said, school and education is #1 priority. Even if I have the money to get a BMW, like the one provided in those links, I'd still most likely save it for college unless I really can manage both without a doubt. |
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Post by ciscokid on May 30, 2008 16:41:27 GMT -5
Maybe something really awesome will happen and you'll get that car in your avatar.
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Post by Spartan on May 30, 2008 16:52:42 GMT -5
Maybe something really awesome will happen and you'll get that car in your avatar. I don't think those are even legal in the USA. But that would be totally sweet, I'd show up for work/school/anywhere and scare the crap out of everyone with it. THAT would be fun. ;D |
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Post by Lupin_IV on May 30, 2008 16:59:43 GMT -5
Actually Pagani recently confirmed that they will make some US street legal cars - only five of them.
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Post by ciscokid on May 30, 2008 17:03:34 GMT -5
Does it matter if it's street legal if you can always outrun the cops?
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Post by Spartan on May 30, 2008 17:37:11 GMT -5
Does it matter if it's street legal if you can always outrun the cops? I suppose not... But now I'll have to get into tip-top running shape so I can outrun them on foot if they come to my house! Actually Pagani recently confirmed that they will make some US street legal cars - only five of them. That'll be interesting to see. I'll assume that they will have to unfortunately tone down the performance and put more crash protection. And when you say "only five", do you mean 5 models, or literally 5 cars? |
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Post by Spartan on May 30, 2008 18:26:42 GMT -5
Oh, adn one other thing: What's the point of removing the badges from your car? I see this particularly with tuners, but I don't see why they do it. Just to make it look more uniform and neat?
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Post by ½ A Gram on May 30, 2008 19:29:28 GMT -5
one a car tat is styled towards being murdered out (black/gunmetal, smoked lenses, etc) a big assed, chrome/silver badge is way out of place. With some series runs, it's to make people guess what ya have.
Example: a 911, 911S, and 911T from 1971 all look pretty much the same. Debadge em (if they had any) and you could keep people guessing for hours on what you really had.
An E30 M3 (the E30 was the first generation M3. it was 87 to 91, if i recall. Then came the E36, E46, E92) will pull around 21 mpg average, if i recall. An older 911 can pull up to 25-27 depending on what's been done to it, how it's been taken care of, etc.
BMW/Porsche have some of the best mileage around for their class of car. Particularly Porsche. if they wanted to, all of their 911's could pull 30 mpg, average.
Anyway, if you are seriously thinking about doubling up a car/college combo, get a car that will take you through college. Even if it costs a little more, it's better to have reliable transportation/something you like or care for, than switching cars along the way.
Around here, Student loans are a very viable way to go. low interest, low payments, and you don't even have to start paying until you're done your entire course. I would ideally like to get enough for half my years, take an internship at the end of the 3rd, and pay the 4th year off the internship (starting wages for a guy out of college paid)
But seriously, search search search. if you want to know how much a Ferrari 512 would cost, search for it. an original beetle, search it. the more you search, the more options you have. and search form now, all the way till when you have the cash. But i don't need to tell you this.
Do you get a long, harsh winter where you live? if you don't a whole lot, a bike may be a VERY good way to go. easy to store, cheaper to insure (usually) excellent on gas (upwards of 50 mpg, on some of the 650's) and fun as hell.
Miata's are also insanely overpriced, because of that fact. new they go for almost 30, if i recall correctly. I've seen original Gen miatas in decent shape go for as much as 10 grand. Like i said, comparatively, that's an E30 M3, or a 928.
Oh, and gtp: don't worry about setting your hopes high now. when i was first looking, i was checking out 24 grand 993's, hehe.
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Post by Spartan on May 30, 2008 20:33:57 GMT -5
An E30 M3 (the E30 was the first generation M3. it was 87 to 91, if i recall. Then came the E36, E46, E92) will pull around 21 mpg average, if i recall. An older 911 can pull up to 25-27 depending on what's been done to it, how it's been taken care of, etc. BMW/Porsche have some of the best mileage around for their class of car. Particularly Porsche. if they wanted to, all of their 911's could pull 30 mpg, average. Anyway, if you are seriously thinking about doubling up a car/college combo, get a car that will take you through college. Even if it costs a little more, it's better to have reliable transportation/something you like or care for, than switching cars along the way. Around here, Student loans are a very viable way to go. low interest, low payments, and you don't even have to start paying until you're done your entire course. I would ideally like to get enough for half my years, take an internship at the end of the 3rd, and pay the 4th year off the internship (starting wages for a guy out of college paid) But seriously, search search search. if you want to know how much a Ferrari 512 would cost, search for it. an original beetle, search it. the more you search, the more options you have. and search form now, all the way till when you have the cash. But i don't need to tell you this. Do you get a long, harsh winter where you live? if you don't a whole lot, a bike may be a VERY good way to go. easy to store, cheaper to insure (usually) excellent on gas (upwards of 50 mpg, on some of the 650's) and fun as hell. Oh, and gtp: don't worry about setting your hopes high now. when i was first looking, i was checking out 24 grand 993's, hehe. That's a really good point. It's better to have something you want up front than to get something more practical, only to get the thing you wanted in the end anyways. Maybe I'll go for the porsche, I can just blow the tires up to 32-33 psi and I'll gain a couple mpg. The only thing I'm worried about is that in 3 years, those cars will be trash from being so old... 90% of the ones I saw for sale now had around 80-100k miles on them. I think a bike would be a good way to go, except for the fact that they aren't very practical other than for fun, mpg, and price. Can't carry much cargo, people stereotype you as a speed freak, and my parents probably wouldn't be too glad about it. How right you are. In 2-3 years, when I'll be getting my drivers permit, the cars that will be running for under $15k will be different from those ones now, so I just have to keep researching and I have to keep on top of what cars are going for cheap, what do I want to get at that price, etc. By the way, Predator, do you happen to go by the name of Tupacrulez on GameFAQS? |
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Post by nightmare75 on May 30, 2008 21:07:54 GMT -5
Yeah, that's the same guy.
New base MX-5s go for $21285. Still a little overpriced, IMO, but not as extreme as was mentioned.
Honestly, I think you might be well-served to shoot for something like Civic Si or Mazdaspeed3. Much as we bash on those cars, they do offer some semblance of both performance and economy. Granted, you probably won't be able to find a used 3 or Si for your price range unless you get one in terrible shape. They're both a little overpriced on resale (especially the Civics). But I'm just giving a general idea. A turbo FWD 4 banger is going to do OK on gas, will probably be approved by your parents, and won't be the slowest tub on the road.
It really comes down to what you want. If you absolutely can't drive a FWD or a 4 banger, you can look for something better. Just keep your eyes open when you're in the car driving around. If you see something that catches your eye, go ahead and take a look into it.
As for me, I drive a small pickup (which for the record, I didn't pay for). It gets good enough mileage that I can use it like a car, plus I can haul my drum set or the occasional lumber without any problems. It suits my needs and my wants second. You need to find a vehicle that fits that for you.
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Post by Lupin_IV on May 30, 2008 21:55:06 GMT -5
And when you say "only five", do you mean 5 models, or literally 5 cars? They're building 5 US legal Zondas. |
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Post by ½ A Gram on May 30, 2008 23:51:57 GMT -5
nightmare: "New base"....Base...keyword.
gtp: a car can run at 250k miles if it's been taken care of. It all depends on the care that's been put into it.
A Bike is not useful for moving, but that's why you get an 800 dollar truck on top. to help ya move, if need be. also, in college, you probably aren't going to have alot to move anyway. and sidebags can hold a surprising amount. but i don't know how well a bike would work in PA.
Excellent point nightmare, but gtp, at 13, you really aren't gonna know what's the best option for ya yet. (I know i didn't) so, like it's been stated, just look around. get an assessment. I myself, will bend for a 4 banger if it's decent sized, but won't drive fwd, or a japanese car (it's just a no-no for me) so it limits things greatly. I'm picky as hell. You probably aren't.
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Post by Spartan on Jun 1, 2008 15:53:02 GMT -5
nightmare: "New base"....Base...keyword. gtp: a car can run at 250k miles if it's been taken care of. It all depends on the care that's been put into it. i don't know how well a bike would work in PA. Yeah, but that's the problem, I won't really know how well it's been taken care of. I could ask the current owner, or the person selling it, but if the car had a previous owner before the current owner, I still wouldn't know for sure. And I'm pretty sure a motorcycle would work well, the winters aren't that bad.... they used to be though, the past 3 or 4 years have been mild. |
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