|
|
Post by vitg on Jul 17, 2007 2:59:08 GMT -5
Tupacrulez
Posted 5/31/2007 11:01:52 PM
message detail i will do my best to get on a prowler review a little later, however i got rid of my first one, so it's eithger a re win, or a arcade review, sorry guys
ciscrack
Posted 6/1/2007 9:08:13 AM
message detail Board: Gran Turismo 4 | Topic: 31394215 - The Nurburgring Diary: Volume XV | Moderation ID: 5142942
From: ciscrack | Posted: 5/31/2007 8:45:21 AM
Moderated at: 5/31/2007 2:56:52 PM | Reason: Disruptive Posting | Action: Message Deleted
more
---
"Ciscrack always disappears and comes back just to pwn somebody." -Rex Gotto
Your message was found to be violating the following section of the TOS:
Disruptive Behavior - Behavior that disrupts the Service for other users, intentional or not, are prohibited. This includes, but is not limited to: messages or topic titles that force browsers to scroll horizontally; large blank or content-free messages; "bumping" multiple older topics (posting in them well after the last post); posting multiple identical or near-identical messages or topics, including "fad" posts or topics; intentionally hard-to-read topic titles or posts (i.e. ALL CAPS, AlTeRnAtE cApS, no spaces, no or excessive punctuation); posting multiple hard-to-read or nonsensical messages in a single or multiple topics; posting large ASCII art (except in social topics specifically calling for it); or post counting (i.e. "First", "100th Post"). Shouting or otherwise creating noise in an active voice channel is considered disruptive behavior.
Some additional notes on the Disruptive rule:
* To sum up the rule, users should post in order to communicate, not just for the sake of posting.
* Adding in (caps) or substituting a couple of lower-case letters in an ALL CAPS topic title does not exempt it from the rule. Any topic title designed to draw attention in this manner is a violation of the Disruptive rule.
Beware of a new mod named Seaman9999. He decided to delete one of my posts that helped finish off the last volume just to flex his newfound moderation muscle, saying I violated a TOS rule and in turn, violated the TOS himself by posting in a topic well after it was closed.
---
"Ciscrack always disappears and comes back just to pwn somebody." -Rex Gotto
|
|
|
|
Post by vitg on Jul 17, 2007 3:00:04 GMT -5
viperx2002
Posted 6/1/2007 1:48:06 PM
message detail I grabbed Forza and decided to see how the Ring compares to GT4. I was nervous so I ran it in a Sprinter Trueno for my first run... it was decidedly boring. There are no bumps on the road surface that I could tell. The long flat out section after Bergwerk is very boring wthout the bumps. It could also be because I chose such a tame car. I'll have to try with my VW GTI to be sure. I like the game overall but I was disappointed by how easy the 'Ring felt.
---
"The greatest burden is great potential" - Charles M. Schulz
"a medical degree is useless in pvp." - Yars
Tupacrulez
Posted 6/1/2007 4:52:37 PM
message detail doesn't the forza version feel more laid back too? like the corners don't seem near as breakneck and sharp...they're too gentle
viperinthegrass
Posted 6/2/2007 12:04:48 AM
message detail [This message was deleted at the request of the original poster]
|
|
|
|
Post by vitg on Jul 17, 2007 3:00:43 GMT -5
viperinthegrass
Posted 6/2/2007 12:22:11 AM
message detail Greetings from Oz.
G'Day Oldguy57 & Mr. Pinstripes, I knew you guys would still be lurking.
I realised that some of our new members do not really know their way around the 'Ring as well as some of us do. The map is really useful but to complement it ,I thought I might do a "Virtual" map or pictorial lap if you like. I am just doing a 24 Hr. run at the moment so I will get to it as soon as that is done. as well as the WR™ & BR™ , of course.
WanderingMuse22 - Alas I have neither an X Box or high speed internet, so it will be a while until I am able to race you in real time cyberland !!
Ciscrack - Do you not hate double standards ?
That was pretty low modding you for claiming the last post of our Vol XV. As you are a long time veteran of the Diaries I thought it very fitting that you were there to complete that volume. We neither asked for, or needed any intervention from an officious moderator.
I am sure the other veterans lurking or posting would agree with me.
I give notice now that I will be closing the 500th. post for Vol XVl when the time comes.
|
|
|
|
Post by vitg on Jul 17, 2007 3:01:13 GMT -5
General Lee
Posted 6/2/2007 8:42:44 AM
message detail I have just re-started my game, and before I put every car to bed, I have promised myself I'll take it for one lap around the 'Ring.
I started with the Pontiac Solstice Coupe Concept '02, the prize for Silver in the Super license.
After winning the FR beginners' cup stock and the American Muscle Car championship after it was tuned with a chip, racing exhaust, R3 tires, all drivetrain upgrades, Stage 2 turbo, Stage 1 weight reduction, oil change and a wing, I decided it was time for a buzz around the 'Ring.
8.01.45 with only one major error.
I have a ghost of a stock SLR I use to practice for DM34 so I raced that, and it was back & forth between the two of us up to the mini Karussel. Obviously the SLR shot off straight after but my little Pontiac kept on superbly.
With max downforce and softened springs it handled OK, maybe a touch heavy compared to some I have driven but very grippy. Top speed topped out at 131mph and, with tuning and a tweak of the gearbox, i could probably get a 7.2X.XX and a decent player would probably touch 7 mins dead.
I will be driving the '89 MX-5 next, in a few series, so when they are completed I will run another lap and post my thoughts.
---
Discourage Inbreeding. Ban Country Music...
|
|
|
|
Post by vitg on Jul 17, 2007 17:25:33 GMT -5
Tupacrulez
Posted 6/2/2007 9:14:29 AM
message detail hmmmm.....pontiac solstice......i should grab me up one
viperx2002
Posted 6/2/2007 1:28:43 PM
message detail doesn't the forza version feel more laid back too? like the corners don't seem near as breakneck and sharp...they're too gentle.
That's an excellent way to put it.
---
"The greatest burden is great potential" - Charles M. Schulz
"a medical degree is useless in pvp." - Yars
Tupacrulez
Posted 6/2/2007 3:15:26 PM
message detail *salutes* glad to be of help....
I've driven Forza's Ring, and i honestly can't say i liked it...they modeled it way to smooth....and way to laid back
wanderingmuse22
Posted 6/2/2007 3:56:36 PM
message detail Is it really too much to ask to have a game with GT's 'Ring and Forza's Porsche's? That's what I want for Christmas; cookies be damned.
---
For as lightning that comes from the east is visible even in the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man. Matthew 24:27
Tupacrulez
Posted 6/2/2007 6:23:58 PM
message detail yeah., but forza didn't exactly have the most amazing Porsche modeling lol
|
|
|
|
Post by vitg on Jul 17, 2007 17:26:41 GMT -5
MrPinstripes
Posted 6/2/2007 8:38:44 PM
message detail WR Report: Chrysler Prowler
I got a chance to run the Prowler this week. Not a whole lot, as time is still pretty limited and my DFP is still acting up (though it's at least useable now). I lucked out waaaay back when I started the game and got the orange metallic one on my first run through whichever race it's the prize for, and the inability to use it in races kept me from tinkering with it (this was back when I still tinkered with cars).
I ran mine (as always) on N2 tires, and I think this made more of a difference with the Prowler then it does with some cars.
My first impression (beyond how damn cool it looks) was a noticeable lack of mechanical grip. Not to the point of being undriveable, but it's still a lot more slippery than I'd prefer. I suspect some minor tweaks to the suspension would clear that right up. I also think that the N2s may be making it worse; some cars shine on N2s, and some don't.
Beyond the overall low grip levels, it was a pleasantly rowdy drive. I'm not a big fan of neutral, boring-as-oatmeal cars, and the Prowler has just enough brown sugar sprinkled on top to get your attention if you're overzealous on the throttle.
Oddly enough, the Prowler earned the largest chunk of my respect when I was storming towards Schwedenkreuz and it dawned on me that I was still in 4th gear. Excellent! I'm a sucker for 4-speeds! Beyond my personal bias, the Prowler has a flat enough powerband to pull it off, though it might be geared a bit too high for most tracks.
Overall best: A very bad 8'44. I'd be willing to bet that a ~8'20 would be possible.
Damn, does it look bad-ass, though.
---
Mr Pinstripes' first impressions of Forza 2
Let me qualify this with the statement that I'm playing with a controller, since Microsoft didn't see fit to make their game compatible with certain other brands' steering wheels... /kickshins <Microsoft>
Also, for anyone who cares about this stuff, the graphics are visible and the sound is audible.
Now that that's out of the way, I'll get onto my opinions of the game.
Overall, it seems like a solid improvement on Forza, with a few exceptions.
--- The Positive ---
Even with a controller, road and car feel is great. That (and the related tuning depth) is one thing I always felt Forza did much better than GT4.
Most of my issues with the first game (stupidly touchy brakes, overly sensitive tires, and unrepentant 'blind linebacker' AI) seem to have cleared up.
Also, the cars seem to have much more individual feel than they did in the first game, which is the main area I felt GT4 trumped Forza.
I think it's a damn solid game, and anyone who likes GT4 and isn't a PlayStation zealot would do well to give it a shot. Since I will not drop $600 on a PS3, $75 on GT5, and $350 on a G25 (which will probably die in a year, like all my other Logitech wheels have), Forza looks like my best bet for console racing goodness.
--- Exceptions to "...solid improvement on Forza..." ---
1) The Nurburgring still sucks. I haven't had the chance to test it yet, but I'd bet it's still 18 miles long. The fact that one of the Time Trials is a Porsche 962 and your target time is 7'04 seems to back that up; the real-life record for a car of roughly that caliber is 6'25, and that was during a race.
2) The track selection sucks. Half of the great tracks from the first game are gone, replaced with about a dozen variations on the Test Track Infield.
3) The car selection sucks. If it's not a 'fanboy' car, it's probably not in there. Worse yet, there are some glaring omissions (like no Mazda Miata) that weren't there in the first game.
4) The Search function in the dealership screen has been removed. No more, "I need a car of X class that meets Y requirements"; we're back to hunt-and-peck car buying.
|
|
|
|
Post by vitg on Jul 17, 2007 17:27:58 GMT -5
Tupacrulez Posted 6/2/2007 8:43:46 PM message detail being that i have a PS3, and am getting a G25, and haven't had prollems with Logitech, your arguments are not helping lol Seriously, i hate Forza, i really do....mostly because i am an unbeatable Sony fan, but also because GT has simply been a better game all round than Forza....and a good many other simulators wanderingmuse22 Posted 6/2/2007 10:23:37 PM message detail MrPinstripes said: "Since I will not drop $600 on a PS3, $75 on GT5, and $350 on a G25 (which will probably die in a year, like all my other Logitech wheels have), Forza looks like my best bet for console racing goodness." And I have a similar problem. The ONLY game for which I would like a PS3 is Turismo. There's no other Sony specific title that interests me. It's too much to spend for one game, which is sad, because I'd much rather have Turismo, and can only hope that someone will step up the plate and trump them all. Perhaps Enthusia? Who knows. 'Ringing on GT4 is worth keeping the PS2 connected. Even if GT5 had Porsche it would still be too much. (though I must admit, if there were more than twenty, I'd be tempted) --- For as lightning that comes from the east is visible even in the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man. Matthew 24:27 Tupacrulez Posted 6/3/2007 12:16:01 AM message detail there is more than enough titles for me to buy a ps3.....carbon, resistance, GT5, GTA IV thsi fall, NFS 2008....... oh yeah, i like my Ps3.... DarkDoc Posted 6/3/2007 8:04:46 AM message detail I haven't read every page of this thread, but the other day I found some interesting vids. On board with Nick Heidfeld in the BMW Sauber, the first time a modern F1 has been used on the Nordschleife in about 30 years. So it's a great German driver, in a great German car, on... Anyway, enjoy: www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVs59ullbiI |
|
|
|
Post by vitg on Jul 17, 2007 17:30:10 GMT -5
wanderingmuse22 Posted 6/3/2007 9:55:47 AM message detail I drove the Chrysler Proweler on N2's as well, managed an even worse 8'54, and imagine capable hands could do 8'30" or better. My first lap was a 9'12, and I wasn't sure what to think. I didn't like enormous gears, and I wasn't taking advantage of it's handling. I liked that it would step out the back a bit, but I was misusing the N2's and forcing understeer. The best part to tune always being the driver, I started there. I usually ignore first gear (other than to start), but with the Proweler, that's foolishness. Downshifting more than normal to keep the revs up is a must. Also, in my opinion, this car really is a three speed. The only time fourth seemed useful (let alone necessary) was the downhill bit after Dottinger Hohe. As for the handling, a little left foot braking in the quicker bends to keep the suspension loaded, smarter use of the basics (approach line, braking points, turn in points) and voila. The Prowler is a fantastic WR selection, and a pleasant car to drive. Now, back to work at logging a decent lap time. Thank you Nightmare~! --- For as lightning that comes from the east is visible even in the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man. Matthew 24:27 nightmare75 Posted 6/3/2007 11:23:23 AM message detail Glad I could pick something so entertaining ^_^. I think I'll go back and try running on N2s, since that seems to be the norm. My times were on S2s, which I suppose is why my times are so much better than other people's. --- Proud follower of Pastafarianism--12/15/06 www.gt4fox.proboards100.com -- For awesomeness! Tupacrulez Posted 6/3/2007 1:42:55 PM message detail i did not enjoy my Prowler.... Understeery, geared to long and sluggish out of corners.....gimme my Cuda any day.....although the Prowler looks the part, it is certainly no hotrod of yesteryear ciscrack Posted 6/4/2007 9:10:36 AM message detail Chrysler Prowler- Not impressed at all. Gears were way too long, not exactly an exciting ride and rather low powered for the "hot rod" styling. Curious about the top speed of this thing, I took it to the test track. 138 mph and only get about halfway into 4th gear before it tops out. If this is anything like the real performance, it's extremely over priced for a mediocre performer. --- "Ciscrack always disappears and comes back just to pwn somebody." -Rex Gotto nightmare75 Posted 6/4/2007 2:59:48 PM message detail I'd agree that it's underpowered, especially with the way it's geared. With better gearing and maybe another 50 horses, this car's cookin'. --- Proud follower of Pastafarianism--12/15/06 www.gt4fox.proboards100.com -- For awesomeness |
|
|
|
Post by vitg on Jul 17, 2007 17:32:05 GMT -5
viperinthegrass
Posted 6/4/2007 5:26:45 PM
message detail Hey all,
A quick post from work as my monitor at home is on the fritz, which makes it really hard to do stuff !
Weekend Rider™ - Prowler - looks the ducks guts, but agree no grip on N2's.
S2's better.
Green Shock Budget Rider™ - Burchill Max ! , had an absolut ball with this one.
I will only say when it comes to shades of green there can be only one.
More later. ( probably after work when everyone has left. ).
---
I Liked The Viperinthegrass So Much, I Bought The Company!
wanderingmuse22
Posted 6/5/2007 7:04:12 AM
message detail Um. The ducks guts?
---
For as lightning that comes from the east is visible even in the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man. Matthew 24:27
viperinthegrass
Posted 6/5/2007 3:35:51 PM
message detail Ahh yes, sorry ! A bit more Oz speak which translates as - "It looks rather Spiffy ! "
It should be parked at the Beach with a couple of Surfboards sticking out of it.
Burchill Max Green Shock Budget Rider™
Aston Martin DB7 Vantage Coupe '00
British Racing Green ( of course).
A few modifications ( I hope this is within the challenge rules ?).
Racing Exhaust
Chip
NA stage 3
Weight reduction stage 3
R3 Tyres
Racing Brakes
FC Tranny + other driveline mods, ASM off, TCS @ 2.
632 hp - 1473 kg.
Best time - 6 ' 41 . 547
Mr. Pinstripes ! - you have got to try this Car and setup, it's a riot.
Driving technique - race up to corner way to fast and jump on the brakes hard and late.
Back end will step out and slide ( in a somewhat controlled manner ), when front of Car is pointing at apex, mash throttle through firewall.
Great gobs of torque will pull from the basement right up until you need to brake for the next corner.
Brilliant.
What a chassis, ( notice suspension stock. ), handles the power and remaining weight with ease.
I will add my thoughts on the prowler later as I have to go and do some work.
Later.
---
I Liked The Viperinthegrass So Much, I Bought The Company!
wanderingmuse22
Posted 6/5/2007 5:50:44 PM
message detail I was wondering if it was Oz or old, figured it was one of those two...
(kidding, kidding)
---
For as lightning that comes from the east is visible even in the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man. Matthew 24:27
viperinthegrass
Posted 6/7/2007 5:33:42 PM
message detail Weekend Rider™ Chrysler Prowler
I made the mistake of running the Prowler on N2's , straight after burning up the track with the DB7.
Eeek. Could not convince the Prowler to turn at all. I even reset just as I was about to cross the line with the clock at 9' + as I wanted no record or reminder of the horror that had just been.
After a break, tried again and managed an 8 ' 46 . 616 - just so so.
Much better effort on S2's - 8 ' 15 . 064 so about the 30 second difference was achieved but getting down to 8 ' 30 . xxx is beyond my meagre skills.
Cool looking Car, there are a few photos in the Album which I have been updating lately. I think I have got everything but anyone notices an omission let me know. Thanks.
I will get to the "Virtual Map" this Weekend.
|
|
|
|
Post by vitg on Jul 17, 2007 19:15:18 GMT -5
wanderingmuse22 Posted 6/7/2007 5:48:33 PM message detail Getting some cars (usally of the FR variety) to turn on N2's is a Zen exercise. You must accept slowing down in order to speed up, as going fast will only slow you down. If it wasn't for the Prowler I'd have not gotten a fun lap out of the TVR Cerbera 6, and for that I'm ever thankful. --- For as lightning that comes from the east is visible even in the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man. Matthew 24:27 1337ozPWNSTEAK Posted 6/8/2007 1:48:19 AM message detail Would anyone care to remind me where to get the Prowler? Was it from the Crossfire Trophy, or the Viper cup? Either way, I would need to win it before giving it a Ring test. BTW, Nightmare, a new weekend approaches! Time to pick the next WRPicker! --- I was Ignignoc in a former life... gt4fox.proboards100.com/index.cgi? - For great justice. nightmare75 Posted 6/8/2007 7:00:52 AM message detail You can pick up a Prowler from the Spider and Roadster Race Seeing as you brought it up, igni.... I mean.... Pwnsteak, I think you should pick the next Weekend Rider. Can't wait to see your choice. --- Proud follower of Pastafarianism--12/15/06 www.gt4fox.proboards100.com -- For awesomeness! Tupacrulez Posted 6/8/2007 10:19:56 AM message detail Igni...my bad, 1337, where'd igni go? --- It's Not Personal, It's Strictly Business 1337ozPWNSTEAK Posted 6/8/2007 11:17:29 PM message detail Thanks for the WR choice, Nightmare! I'm not sure which one to pick. There are so many good cars that have already been used, but I want to find something different. I was wanting to go with the CTR2, somewhat reminiscent of the venerable Porsche 959, but I don't know if I could handle that kind of power at the Nürburgring. Perhaps something older, more classic is in order... Let's use the NISSAN SKYLINE Hard Top 2000GT-R (KPGC10) '70! It's the prize car from the Japanese 70's Classics race. I drove it in my most recent 1000 Miles! run, and it was a delightful, stable drive, even on N3's. --- I was Ignignoc in a former life... gt4fox.proboards100.com/index.cgi? - For great justice. Tupacrulez Posted 6/9/2007 12:37:22 PM message detail lol I can handle the CTR2. I'll go for some 959 Ring bliss. you can drive your skylines lol. And i STILL have to finish my 905 RR review.....GAH! --- It's Not Personal, It's Strictly Business wanderingmuse22 Posted 6/9/2007 12:50:40 PM message detail There is a difference between the CTR2 and 959 Ring Bliss. Make sure to add some ballast to the back. --- For as lightning that comes from the east is visible even in the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man. Matthew 24:27 Tupacrulez Posted 6/9/2007 1:31:23 PM message detail yeah, seeing as PD frigign made Porsche *RUF, whatever* oversteer like hunks of crap..... --- It's Not Personal, It's Strictly Business wanderingmuse22 Posted 6/9/2007 3:59:31 PM message detail Oversteer isn't a common complaint of the CTR2. --- For as lightning that comes from the east is visible even in the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man. Matthew 24:27 Tupacrulez Posted 6/10/2007 9:57:02 PM message detail it is form just about any RR car in this game.....the CTR 2 is RR is it not? --- It's Not Personal, It's Strictly Business |
|
|
|
Post by vitg on Jul 17, 2007 19:19:34 GMT -5
wanderingmuse22 Posted 6/11/2007 12:07:34 AM message detail The CTR2 is AWD, but feels way too FF to be true. You'll see. The oversteeriness of the RR cars is their charm: a mountain to climb with accomplishment as reward. True esteem springs from overcoming. When the BTR was WR it fostered many pages of discussion: 'Ringers sharing advice or frustration, and improving as drivers. I'm pretty sure it was Onikaze's pick: a cruel joke on those of us who harbored illusions of control. I don't know how many laps it took before I could log a lap clean, and I've yet to run one truly fast, but I'll forever save the replay of the best one I've managed. Does anyone have that volume? The CTR2, I don't know. I've had fun driving it, but had to drive it much slower than what it's potential should be to do so. Or maybe my problem was expecting too much? I don't know. VitG, was it you who had RUFMania? That covered pretty much all of them, no? --- For as lightning that comes from the east is visible even in the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man. Matthew 24:27 ciscrack Posted 6/11/2007 9:47:01 AM message detail [This message was deleted at the request of the original poster] ciscrack Posted 6/11/2007 9:49:20 AM message detail [This message was deleted at the request of the original poster] kio703 Posted 6/11/2007 10:59:37 PM message detail Anyone ver drivin a pickup around the ring? --- The absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence. nightmare75 Posted 6/12/2007 1:21:26 PM message detail ^ Yeah. I took the Chevy Silverado Concept for a spin once. Was pretty entertaining. SUVs can be fun as well. Here's My WR report on the Skyline Hardtop 2000GT-R: This was kind of a persnickety little car. Acceleration was OK for how low the engine output is. Handling felt pretty OK. I didn't have any major complaints about it. For the most part, the back end of the car stays in the back, even when you apply full throttle out of the corner. I encountered a little bit of understeer, but nothing really serious. A fun car to drive despite its age and low power. Here's a couple pics I took: Got a little wide at Aremberg in this one: i168.photobucket.com/albums/u166/nightmare_75/GT4/70Skyline.jpgA good action shot, IMO: i168.photobucket.com/albums/u166/nightmare_75/GT4/70Skyline2.jpg--- Proud follower of Pastafarianism--12/15/06 www.gt4fox.proboards100.com -- For awesomeness! Tupacrulez Posted 6/12/2007 8:19:18 PM message detail Wandering: are you sure the CTR2 is AWD.....i'll have to go check. oh well. i never bothered with the CTR2.....yet. always used the yellowbird or BTR. --- It's Not Personal, It's Strictly Business Soulidarity Posted 6/12/2007 10:58:23 PM message detail Anyone ver drivin a pickup around the ring? The F-150 Lightning was a WR a long time ago. I wasn't part of the Diaries at the time, but I can recall some people referencing it, and it seems it wasn't popular. I've taken the Lightning and the X-Runner around the ring. They drive like a truck (obviously), that is to say heavy and a bit sluggish, but they handle nicely, so they weren't bad there. --- Gades: Puny knight! I AM EVIL! Hero: E....Evil? Tupacrulez Posted 6/13/2007 1:51:36 PM message detail LOL ram around the ring FTW.....hhaah --- It's Not Personal, It's Strictly Business viperx2002 Posted 6/13/2007 2:17:52 PM message detail Wasn't there also an offroad challenge at one point where the objective was to try to stay in the grass in a truck? I think it was around diary 8 or 9... --- "The greatest burden is great potential" - Charles M. Schulz "a medical degree is useless in pvp." - Yars Tupacrulez Posted 6/13/2007 4:29:30 PM message detail lol 13 minute lap FTW.... seriously, that would be fun..... --- It's Not Personal, It's Strictly Business |
|
|
|
Post by vitg on Jul 17, 2007 19:22:11 GMT -5
viperinthegrass Posted 6/14/2007 8:56:43 PM message detail G’Day all, vitg here. Nissan Skyline HT 2000GT – R (KPGC10) ‘ 70 Weekend Rider™ I love the old ones, being somewhat elderly myself. A good pick. At only 160 hp ( vitg forgot the oil change !) and not much weight you are never going to get into much trouble with “Gramps Godzilla”. Good fun to chuck about and quite a respectable turn of speed. I tried it bone stock , stock with aids off and N2’s aids off. Aids are a complete waste of time, so do not even contemplate using them. In fact leaving the setup stock, I noticed my AT tranny found a huge hole in the powerband at around 5k ( try it and you will see what I mean ). Not a problem with AT / aids off. As Igni mentioned good grip even on N2’s ended up only 26 secs off my S2 time, pretty impressive. Immaterial, but vitg best time 8 ‘ 48 . 479 Nightmare – have added your photos to the gallery. Tupac – Your Audi gallery also done including titles. Sorry for the delay. Effing dialup. Rufmania – quite correct Muse, that was flibutz and vitg who were afflicted with this most benign of mental illnesses. Affects can include the following – www.mediamax.com/viperinthegrass/Hosted/Nurbmontagefinal.MPGLater. --- I Liked The Viperinthegrass So Much, I Bought The Company! nightmare75 Posted 6/14/2007 10:10:21 PM message detail How exactly do I add pics to the gallery? --- Proud follower of Pastafarianism--12/15/06 www.gt4fox.proboards100.com -- For awesomeness! viperinthegrass Posted 6/15/2007 12:28:11 AM message detail Nightmare - just drop the links into your posts and I will copy them to the Ringdiary Gallery, which btw is here - s25.photobucket.com/albums/c53/RingDiary/--- I Liked The Viperinthegrass So Much, I Bought The Company! 1337ozPWNSTEAK Posted 6/15/2007 1:35:24 AM message detail [DISCLAIMER: Forgive me, the following isn't actually a WR-Report as much as a general review of the car based on my experiences with it at the Nürburgring.] The reason I picked the '70 Skyline HT is because I found one endearing trait during my search for a non-ubercar for the 1000 Miles! Championship: This car HANDLES!!1 Seriously, look at it in comparison with the Elan S1: only marginally more power (157bhp vs. 106bhp) but far heavier (1100kg vs. 639kg), however, it turns in lap times at, or at least near those of the Elan! I was testing this machine out on the 'Ring and it impressed me. It was up against the likes of the L10A/B Mazdas (cosmo sports), the high-revving Mitsubishi GTO, the Camaro Z28 (with ballast and N-grade, naturally) and a couple of others that escape my memory. The car seemed bland as hell, while I was driving, but when I crossed the finish line ending an unimpressive lap with a sub-9' time, I was shocked. I wondered, "Where the hell did THAT come from?!" On the following lap, I found out. Where a lot of those older cars slip and slide, the Skyline HT stays firmly planted. Where others (like the Mitsu) require high rpm to get any work done, the Skyline has a generous-ish powerband with a nice, flat torque curve. It has 5 well-spaced gears that give plenty of acceleration, yet allow for a decent top speed over 130 mph (220 km/h) from Flugplatz to Schwedenkreutz, up the hill from Bergwerk to Karussel, and down the Dottinger-Hohe straight. As Viper substantiated my claim, this car still stays planted on N-grade rubber, which is quite unlike many other cars in the game. Brakes are solid, giving a crisp, controllable deceleration, and they seem to be well balanced enough to allow some trail-braking, provided you don't get stupid with it. N-grade tires seem to squeal a tad more, but the solid braking ability remains intact. Oversteer can become a problem on some downhill turns, but only if you're not doing your part with the throttle. As has been before stated, the car is very balanced and poised, not to mention slightly underpowered! You can step into the throttle very soon after apex with little to moderate wheelspin, yet not a lot of noticeable oversteer. Whether or not the real-life '70 Skyline HT was this respectable a car is uncertain for me, however GT4's version is a very respectable track presence. And like I've said before, it HANDLES! --- I was Ignignoc in a former life... gt4fox.proboards100.com/index.cgi? - For great justice. nightmare75 Posted 6/15/2007 11:01:38 AM message detail Vitg: These are the links so far of cars that I've run on the ring. The first 4 links are for the Prowler WR. Also included here are some random pics from Ring runs I've done in the past with some interesting cars. i168.photobucket.com/albums/u166/nightmare_75/GT4/Prowler4.jpgi168.photobucket.com/albums/u166/nightmare_75/GT4/Prowler3.jpgi168.photobucket.com/albums/u166/nightmare_75/GT4/Prowler2.jpgi168.photobucket.com/albums/u166/nightmare_75/GT4/Prowler.jpgi168.photobucket.com/albums/u166/nightmare_75/GT4/SLRKarussel.jpgi168.photobucket.com/albums/u166/nightmare_75/GT4/SLR2.jpgi168.photobucket.com/albums/u166/nightmare_75/GT4/SLR.jpgi168.photobucket.com/albums/u166/nightmare_75/GT4/Middlefingerbird2.jpgi168.photobucket.com/albums/u166/nightmare_75/GT4/Nike3.jpgi168.photobucket.com/albums/u166/nightmare_75/GT4/Nike2.jpgi168.photobucket.com/albums/u166/nightmare_75/GT4/delorean2.jpg--- Proud follower of Pastafarianism--12/15/06 www.gt4fox.proboards100.com -- For awesomeness! DarkDoc Posted 6/16/2007 3:35:02 PM message detail Following on form my video link on page 4, wikipedia has the following: Although the official lap time released by BMW Sauber was declared to be 8:34, Road & Track magazine reported that sources at the track had timed Heidfeld's lap to be a 5:57 or 5:58, breaking the track's six-minute barrier for the first time in history. Tupacrulez Posted 6/16/2007 5:48:34 PM message detail Viper: from pictures 1-somewhere around 40 are my pictures of my ring run with the Le Mans Quattro.....some rather good ones too i think. s190.photobucket.com/albums/z317/Micheal_Corleone/GT4/did that scenic album i requested ever get made up? --- It's Not Personal, It's Strictly Business ciscrack Posted 6/18/2007 4:09:03 PM message detail [This message was deleted at the request of a moderator or administrator] nightmare75 Posted 6/18/2007 8:50:49 PM message detail Bump! I think it's time for a new WR picker, 1337ozPWNSTEAK. --- Proud follower of Pastafarianism--12/15/06 www.gt4fox.proboards100.com -- For awesomeness! Tupacrulez Posted 6/18/2007 8:51:53 PM message detail yeah hurry the hell up, we need to keep this alive. i want to see volume 20 by the time GT5 comes out. --- It's Not Personal, It's Strictly Business |
|
|
|
Post by vitg on Jul 17, 2007 19:24:37 GMT -5
Massive_PWNAGE Posted 6/18/2007 10:31:20 PM message detail Just a suggestion: Could a special version of Weekend Rider be done with modified vehicles and a preset setup? wanderingmuse22 Posted 6/18/2007 11:07:35 PM message detail Well, if you add a specifc goal or challenge, you'll have what is called a Budget Rider, which is like the WR, only, the cars are modified based on a given budget, formula, problem to solve, or recommendation. What did you have in mind? --- For as lightning that comes from the east is visible even in the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man. Matthew 24:27 viperinthegrass Posted 6/18/2007 11:29:34 PM message detail Ciscrack - I cannot believe your post got modded and Flasawoo just keeps on keeping on !! Okay - I have uploaded all the shots for the "Virtual Map", I just have to make time to add titles and stuff. Nightmare75 & Tupac - have a look at album, your photo's have been added. Gotta go. Later. --- I Liked The Viperinthegrass So Much, I Bought The Company! ciscrack Posted 6/19/2007 11:07:49 AM message detail Someone should come up with a GF mod and admin BR. Y'know, nothin' but Civics and the like. Too bad we don't have a Forza paintshop to make it more realistic. I'm gonna get modded for this post. Why the hell did my last one get modded? It makes no sense. I'll try it again though. Tupacrulez We were having a way off topic discussion about music, I tried to post a link to a site made for that type of discussion, but the mods didn't like how I posted it, even though from the TOS rule I violated, it should've been completely acceptable. See my sig. --- "Ciscrack always disappears and comes back just to pwn somebody." -Rex Gotto z6.invisionfree.com/Rap_Battle/index.php? Tupacrulez Posted 6/19/2007 9:25:52 PM message detail Truly is pathetic eh? anyway, wheres the WR....I'm out of school, no one is around yet and I'm bloody bored... --- It's Not Personal, It's Strictly Business wanderingmuse22 Posted 6/19/2007 10:11:17 PM message detail What about the SVT Mustang/Cobra thing you get in the used lot. Or, anything that only comes from the used car lot? --- For as lightning that comes from the east is visible even in the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man. Matthew 24:27 Tupacrulez Posted 6/19/2007 11:04:04 PM message detail works for me. --- It's Not Personal, It's Strictly Business 1337ozPWNSTEAK Posted 6/20/2007 12:57:03 AM message detail I haven't seen a WR posted by Muse in a while (whether because he hasn't, or because of my horrible ineptitude), so Muse can be the next WR-Picker-Guy! --- I was Ignignoc in a former life... gt4fox.proboards100.com/index.cgi? - For great justice. Tupacrulez Posted 6/20/2007 2:36:38 AM message detail Muses pic was: anything from the used car lots.... There goes my E type...damn....Vantage to the rescue! --- It's Not Personal, It's Strictly Business KoolKoolKeith Posted 6/20/2007 10:58:18 AM message detail I'ma grab one of dem Civiczzzz for dis BR y'all got goin. Civics ROKZ!!!! --- This username dedicated to GF mods and admins |
|
|
|
Post by vitg on Jul 17, 2007 19:27:58 GMT -5
wanderingmuse22 Posted 6/20/2007 10:08:44 PM message detail I think the used lot Aston Martin Vantage V8 is a great pick for WR. It requires some throttle control at the low end, but I like the look of it. Good idea, TRulez. --- For as lightning that comes from the east is visible even in the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man. Matthew 24:27 Tupacrulez Posted 6/20/2007 11:23:12 PM message detail Oh i agree, if only i could FIND ONE...... --- It's Not Personal, It's Strictly Business ciscrack Posted 6/21/2007 8:56:42 AM message detail I think that Aston Martin was picked for WR awhile back. Not that it can't be done again since there's new peeps here, just thought I'd mention it. --- "Ciscrack always disappears and comes back just to pwn somebody." -Rex Gotto ciscrack Posted 6/21/2007 10:42:40 AM message detail GF mod/admin BR This is a pretty simple idea. You get a 20,000cr budget, car has to be from the classic showroom and priced under 10,000cr. Oil change is free and you must use N1 tires. What do you think? --- "Ciscrack always disappears and comes back just to pwn somebody." -Rex Gotto nightmare75 Posted 6/21/2007 1:39:07 PM message detail Sounds like you'll end up with something a mod would drive  --- Proud follower of Pastafarianism--12/15/06 www.gt4fox.proboards100.com -- For awesomeness! KoolKoolKeith Posted 6/21/2007 2:19:19 PM message detail Dood! If we gonna hav a mod br, 20k is waaayyy too high a budgit. even 5k is a lotta cash for sum1 dat ain't got a job other then deletin messiges. Do they even need a car. I tink all they gots is hotwheels --- This username dedicated to Gamefaqs moderation staff Tupacrulez Posted 6/21/2007 7:23:52 PM message detail does anyone know when the vantage shows up in the used car lots? --- It's Not Personal, It's Strictly Business viperinthegrass Posted 6/21/2007 9:07:54 PM message detail Ciscrack - Here are a few photos for you, I was hoping to have them uploaded a couple of days ago but things got away from me. Enjoy ! s35.photobucket.com/albums/d195/viperin/DriftComp/Tupac - I have a copy of a spreadsheet with all the used Car lot cycles on it but it is at home, I will check when I finish work and let you know. Later. --- I Liked The Viperinthegrass So Much, I Bought The Company! nightmare75 Posted 6/21/2007 9:19:51 PM message detail I LOVE the Vitamin C Superbird. It's probably my favorite muscle car ever. Good pics, vitg. --- Proud follower of Pastafarianism--12/15/06 www.gt4fox.proboards100.com -- For awesomeness! Tupacrulez Posted 6/21/2007 10:10:26 PM message detail heres to post number 100 in the 16th round of the Ring Diary. thats number 7600 in total if my math holds up. and Cis: i would love to know when all the cars come up...post a link to it or something... APPROX 100 POSTS |
|
|
|
Post by vitg on Jul 17, 2007 19:30:33 GMT -5
wanderingmuse22 Posted 6/21/2007 10:17:08 PM message detail You know it's funny, TRulez. There's been a lot of frustration with mods lately, but a message deleted here or there is nothing. They took an entire VOLUME of the Nurburgring Diary once. If we should be at 7600, we're actually closer to 7250. We were about 150 into volume Seven or Eight, and POOF. Gone. No recovery. Lots of livid 'Ringers. Amarynceus or KSAHFS actually interacted with GameFAQs people to no avail, but they've left us alone since then, but for the recent individual moddings. --- For as lightning that comes from the east is visible even in the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man. Matthew 24:27 1337ozPWNSTEAK Posted 6/21/2007 10:43:16 PM message detail Viper, as soon as you get the dates for the availability of the V8 Vantage, I'd like them too. I think I may still have one on my old card, though. I'll probably just try to dig it up from there. No sense making you do all the leg-work...(You know, NTSC vs. PAL) btw, you folks can call me Ignignoc. I still go by that name. Or you can call me Pwnsteak, either one. --- I was Ignignoc in a former life... gt4fox.proboards100.com/index.cgi? - For great justice. Tupacrulez Posted 6/21/2007 11:01:05 PM message detail Wandering: explain to me, why the HELL they would have cause to delete the whole friggin topic....sounds like they were pissed that we didn't have the civic as teh ownage car of teh Ring....or something.....that's just pathetic... --- It's Not Personal, It's Strictly Business 1337ozPWNSTEAK Posted 6/21/2007 11:14:43 PM message detail If memory serves, it actually got D'L33T'D for being, of all things, OFF TOPIC. It was really ass-clowny, too. I hadn't actively participated in the Diaries for very long, but I lurked for quite a while (since about Vol. 6 or so). There for a while before the D'L33T'ION, it was very active with many posts every day, tons of WR, BR, RR, etc. occuring simultaneously, numerous 'Ringers participating and so on. Then, thanks no doubt (at least in part) to the 'DL33T'ION, it just slowed waaaaayy down. There are some who keep it alive, and others who have joined to propagate it, but the damage was done. (listen to me, I'm like frickin Homer's Illead over the 'Ring Diaries...) --- I was Ignignoc in a former life... gt4fox.proboards100.com/index.cgi? - For great justice. Tupacrulez Posted 6/21/2007 11:42:27 PM message detail And you'd make a good homer lol. And sometime i will be finishing that Peugeot review, if i can ever buy the car again *wasted 4.5 million on a pescarolo that i am mystified as to the proper tires to use, and how to get the frigging B spec idiot to drive it right....i can win with med's on no prollem, but he can't handle it right at all...and i was gonna use it to win the 2 24 hr's i have to win yet....along with my repeat of the Ring 24 cuz i had to SELL my FGT for the Budget Building Triathlon**which i later won, twice in a row, going for natural hat trick**.....DAMMIT!* --- It's Not Personal, It's Strictly Business 1337ozPWNSTEAK Posted 6/22/2007 1:10:25 AM message detail The Peugeot 905 (as Muse has pointed out) can take off from a dead standstill in 3rd gear just fine (thanks to a torque curve that's high and flat). Turning it into a virtual 4-speed (either by the above method, or by using the tranny trick to widen the gears) will eliminate the primary culprits in the 905's horrible lag, the wide gap between 1st, 2nd and 3rd gears. For the Sarthe 24hr races, the 905 is more than car enough. You probably should even add some ballast, as well as raising/softening its Formula GT-esque suspension, and strap on an R3/R2 tire combination for balanced wear and handling. If you do your part, there's no reason this car can't get a full 9 laps on a set of tires around Sarthe 1 (chicaned), even with ballast. The only downside, though, is that it is teh suck for points. Use the Black 787B for points-races. --- I was Ignignoc in a former life... gt4fox.proboards100.com/index.cgi? - For great justice. viperinthegrass Posted 6/22/2007 6:40:28 AM message detail That is what I like about the Diary, there are always 'Ringers willing and glad to share their experience and knowledge. To continue in that vein, here are the dates for Aston Martin Vantage V8 as it appears in the used Car lot ( PAL dates, but should be close for NTSC as well ). Week 13,38,39,41,70,71,72,73,76,77,89,91,92,94. As I mentioned earlier I have the dates for all Cars, if you would like the list probably best to email me. IIRC the last time we had anything to do with the Vantage, it was parked on top of a poor innocent Tree. Still a good Car but !! --- I Liked The Viperinthegrass So Much, I Bought The Company! ciscrack Posted 6/22/2007 9:44:21 AM message detail Viper- Nice pics! I love how that Superbird leans sooooo much on the turns. I wonder if you buy FC tranny, soften the springs all the way and drop the ride height if you could get it to touch ground. That'd be awesome to turn a 'bird into a scraper! Pac- what list? Did viper already take care of that? KoolKoolKeith This username dedicated to Gamefaqs moderation staff I think I get it. That's pretty funny if I'm right, but I'm not even gonna post it cause I'll get modded again. --- "Ciscrack always disappears and comes back just to pwn somebody." -Rex Gotto Tupacrulez Posted 6/22/2007 11:47:59 AM message detail i still have no idea who the hell he is..... anyway, i loved 905 Igni.....abso-frigging-lutely loved it. i got past the terrible shift lag.....and the other faults, such as the horrendously low power....*500 HP in a group C car?!!?!?* to find a car that was one rails, had on HELL of a power : weight, and wasn't bad on tires to boot.....however, it couldn't seem to run the le mans 24, as the frigging b spec IDIOT couldn't use it right.....even with a 90+ machine skill, so i sold it for the 787.....a good car no doubt, but nothing compared to my 905..... and as it turns out, I'm on day 1336, doing the fuji 1000, so I'll get me Aston Martin soon. --- It's Not Personal, It's Strictly Business 1337ozPWNSTEAK Posted 6/22/2007 9:22:47 PM message detail ^LOL. Your R92CP is gonna be delivered on day # 1337! The 905 actually has a higher horsepower rating than the 787B (851bhp vs. 843bhp) and it's lighter (750kg vs. 830kg), but because of the shift lag, it falls behind even in the hands of experienced drivers (all things being equal). Just run the full 24hrs yourself, and you shouldn't have any problems from the ol' Pug. VitG, I try to contribute, but I don' t know if I'm all that helpful. I found my other card's V8 Vantage (in British Racing Green, no less!) so no worries about finding one in the used lots. Ciscrack, that little "thing" hidden in the screenname I noticed a while back, but as for the identity of that poster, I'm still confused like T'Rulez. Who IS this person? --- I was Ignignoc in a former life... gt4fox.proboards100.com/index.cgi? - For great justice. |
|
